With Ulrike. Parked at Bwlch Oeddyrws in heart of bandit country. Crossed stile and short walk to fence corner. Then a fair path head up diagonally right zigzagging to ridge of Cribin Fach where there is a fence. Basic brief for this walk: follow it to Waun-oer. Follow it back. Summit of Cribin Fawr is after about a mile just before a stil over fence.
As we tried all permutations out and back, I can confidently testify that it is much better to stay on the right (NW) side of the fence for the descent (and reascent) for CF and cross to the left (SE) for ascent (and descent) of Waun-oer. The latter is not what you might suppose looking across at the slope but there is a handy path hidden among those trees that is much easier than slithering about on unacceptably steep grass. There is no stile over the fence at the bottom of the dip but, unbarbed and with a loose top wire, it is an easy steep-over. Back same route through sunshine and showers in plenty time for lunch at Red Lion in Dinas Mawddwy
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